Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
Gen 3:2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; who put darkness for light, and light for darkness....
Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, And prudent in their own sight!" Isaiah 5:20-21
I recently found an online book that explains much of what we see happening in churches, and in the entire world for that matter. It began gradually and subtly, as these things do, and recently these things have been ramping up.
There are many things that are upside down and backward from “the way it’s supposed to be”, many are inherent to this fallen world: crime and violence, lying, cheating, wars and rumours of wars, etc, and these also are increasing dramatically. We have the ability to blow the entire planet to smitherines...but the book I mentioned above goes into something else, and we’ve been hitting all around what the problem is, but not actually getting at it’s very root.
The “gender issues” and the feminists rage and outrage increasing combined with the call for “getting in touch with your inner warrior”, and the symbols of warrior princesses and goddesses on the warpath are now creeping even into Christian congregations...but there was something that I still wasn’t quite getting, I mean, yes, of course it is satan inspired and the paganism components are understandable enough, yet I still wasn’t quite piecing it all together.
(While searching for a good Greek goddess depiction I stumbled onto this interesting site: http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-the-different-roles-of-women-in-mythology.htm# )
Artemis/Diana
The above linked online book does that "piecing it all together" for me. It packs a punch at really getting at the very root of these issues and why gender confusion and the feminine power has become the rallying cry for women and many men as well trying to “access their feminine side”.
It all goes back to that original problem of the original sin...and of course I knew that, but looking at these things once again what do we see? It is the woman that succumbed to "the evil one" and sought her own wisdom to lead her instead of trusting what God had told them. And today we see it shouted loud and proud that God's way is evil and puts women down, that Christianity is to blame for making this "a man's world" and blames God and men for all the ills of the world, but not all "gods" are to blame, only the God of the Bible, the God that sent Jesus to ransom us from sin...oh, and there's no such thing as sin...
Hmm, now where would such "new" information come from do you suppose? Is Eve getting duped all over again?
Dear Susan,
ReplyDeleteSome years ago our church Elders (all male) decided to select a "gifted" woman to lead the worship. I made my objections known to them, based on 2 Timothy 2:12, but instead I was told that I had a serious problem, and I needed to be sorted out.
Nevertheless, some months later she left our church with her husband for another fellowship better suited for them.
As far as I'm aware, at present one of the students of a nearby university usually lead the worship, a different leader each week, one or two female but now predominantly male.
Thank you for posting, which is food for thought.
God bless.
Hi Frank,
DeleteThank you for your thoughts, it is bringing up something that I now see requires a part 2 😊 thank you for your blog as well, love reading and growing closer to Jesus through your love for Him.
Many "feminists" railing against God's plan fail to realize that His plan for marriage protects, purifies, and empowers the woman, not by usurping authority from the man, but by being loved self-sacrificingly. The ideal of the Proverbs 31 woman is not a self-effacing mouse, but an industrious, giving, productive and fulfilled woman influencing the destiny, growth and welfare of her family and community by loving and fearing the Lord. If we do that, all else falls into place.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the great post and God bless,
Laurie
Amen Laurie, the world does not nor will not understand such blessings, what we enjoy as blessings they curse at and accuse God of cursing us with what they perceive as shackles and demeaning hardships. But these are simply further evidence that what He says is true.
DeleteVery true Susan :-)
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DeleteStill don’t agree about the Trinity though
DeleteHi Susan, why NOT ? :-)
DeleteThe trinity is NOT in the Bible, then why believe it ?
Perhaps another question, can you tell me what the sin of Eve was in Genesis ?
I mean the literal sin and not the metaphoric statement. :-)
Hi Paul G,
Delete1. The Trinity is not open for debate, you need to do better careful and prayerful study and not be sidetracked by the misinformed who wish to argue such things.
2. Eve knew that the tree of knowledge of good and evil was off limits, but she listened to a voice that seduced her to desire more wisdom. The wisdom she had was good. Now she included evil into her understanding, polluting herself by not sticking to what she knew was right.
Hi Susan,
Delete1. Why not ? Nearly every post on my blog is somehow against the trinity doctrine.
The Lord Jesus Christ has equipped me to expose the trinity doctrine for what it is.
By the way, thank you for your comment over at my blog, and feel free to enter any debate you like. You can change the topic whenever you like and I do not have any restrictions, so you can say whatever you like and with whatever tone you like and no comment is deleted or modified.
Sometimes it may get a little heated, but that is the nature of any debate or disagreement.
Again, you are welcome to join in :-)
2. All though it is true what you have said, but that is not exactly what she did, she did a lot worse than that.
Genesis 3 verse 13, the Lord Jesus Christ said to the woman “What is this you have DONE ?”
Now please tell me what did she ACTUALLY DO ?
Again, not metaphorically, but actually (in act) ?
She ate fruit that she was told not to eat. She was told it would give her special wisdom which would make her like God. She believed the lie and acted on it by eating the apple, pear, or peach (or whatever fruit it was that the fruit tree yielded)
DeleteNo Susan, she did not ate a fruit, eating an apple or a pear is not a sin. Remember, that is metaphorical language in order to hide her sin so that only those to whom it has been given can see her sin and understand.
ReplyDeleteRemember, the Kingdom of God is not eating and drinking just as the Scriptures said but righteousness peace and joy in the Holy Ghost.
If you slowly and carefully read the Genesis account you will be able to see it, and if you can’t see it after a few times reading it, then ask the Lord Jesus Christ to open your eyes and understanding so that you will be able to see and understand :-)
Once you can see it, it will open the Word of God in a new dimension you have never dreamed of.
I think I know where you are trying to take that idea, and I disagree with you. Sometimes a tree is really a tree and the fruit is simply fruit.
DeleteWell Susan , the Lord God Almighty Jesus Christ the creator of heaven and earth is definitely not concerned about trees :-)
DeleteRemember, the Lord Jesus Christ created Adam perfect and exactly in His image and in His likeness, which means that he (Adam) could NOT have been deceived just like it was impossible for the Lord Jesus Christ to be deceived.
But somehow, the Lord Jesus Christ needed to destroy His perfect creation and His perfect image and likeness, and then after prove to Himself and to Adam and to all his children after, that He (Jesus) is a Mighty Saviour and able to save Adam to the utmost and restore him by grace alone apart from works to his original state.
But now with the knowledge, I mean the full knowledge and EXPERIENCE of both life and death, the new birth and the knowledge of good and evil etc.
So, my original question still stands :-)
Susan,
DeleteI see Paul now has infiltrated your ranks. Let me outline Paul's line of attack.
1. First of all it will be an attack. Notice he says "feel free to enter any debate" on his blog. He doesn't know how to discuss issues and just accept people have opinions. Solution---let him go.
2. All of his "debates" will go back to one issue; there is no Trinity. His reasoning is respectable but not sustainable. He will end many of his "debates" with "But which God are you referring to". Solution---let him go.
3. He will not answer questions that prove him wrong in his "debates". He will ignore those and try and change the topic. Solution---let him go.
Here are some of his doctrinal issues:
1. He claims to be an ambassador of Jesus but the only one.
2. He claims satan was part of the creative work in Genesis. That is where he is going with this post. He claims satan had relation with Eve and there are two types of people, one of God and one of satan. But you see the flaw in what he just said. He said the image of God can not be deceived. That means there are those in the image of God that do not sin. Now how can it be impossible? Did Adam sin? YES!
Paul, have you ever been deceived? If no, then you are calling yourself Christ. If yes, then by your own words, you are not made in the image of God. Both answers are un-biblical.
The other flaw is that Paul adds to scripture. He claims satan had relation with Eve and that caused the conception of Cain. But then he subtracts from scripture because Genesis 4:1 says that Adam knew Eve and she conceived and bare Cain. Now how is Cain satan's kid if the scripture flat out says it?
3. He feels all scripture is figurative except one; The father and I are one. That he takes 100% literal with no context. He doesn't understand the concept of the Trinity because he only thinks with his physical mind and not his spirit.
I wish he would at least discuss things but he feel sit has to be a debate and that he is the only one right.
Watch and see what he does here.
My advice is...let him post and then let him go.
Hi Tim, sorry Iwas so slow to respond, I didn’t see your comment, thank you 😊 I noticed that about his rejection that God is Triune, satan always attacks the truth about God, but God is greater than any attack devised against Him. Thank you for your encouragement 💕
DeleteHi Susan,
ReplyDeleteI love the fact that in Christ there is neither male nor female:- 'There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.' Galatians ch. 3 v.2.
Regarding the story about Eve, I think the thing we can learn from this story is not to listen to the spiritual enemy when he says to us 'Did God really say?' as we are spoken to through that Word.
God bless.
Hi Brenda, I agree that as far as salvation goes there is “neither male nor female in Christ” and however we are called to different duties in the body. I don’t feel slighted by that at all. Thanks for sharing your thoughts Brenda 😉
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